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Gypsy Queen's avatar

Swiss here. Mammograms were not banned. The Medical Board recommended fewer mammograms in 2014. It is still encouraged here to get one every 2 years.

My obgyn has been on me for almost a decade to get one. I refuse to do it.

Thermography is another alternative. That I did about 15 years ago and it’s an alternative available here.

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Thanks for the info !

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Inverted Reality's avatar

Wouldn't it be wise to change the title after receiving this information?

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Probably, yes - I’ll see how to ;~ …

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Inverted Reality's avatar

Edit post → the change title.

You seem a bit blasé about it and I don’t really understand it. You translated an article without fact checking and posted it with an incorrect clickbait title. Then, when told about it, you are reluctant to change it because I see it is still the same. You want to be a writer known for clickbait titles and incorrect information?

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The Cazuzo's avatar

Great, you nailed it.

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The Cazuzo's avatar

Chaud Lapin cherche Cocotte Minute?

Si c’est ça l’idée, ça manque petit peu d’ envergure….

Votre texte là, c’est quoi le matin ou 20 minutes.

Désolé, j’ai un manque de respect total pour les ceux qui monopolisent le cerveau des gens qui pensent vraiment…ABE

Parce que vous êtes légion….

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JoJo's avatar

Ultrasounds are more accurate, not painful. As a woman with dense breast tissue, every time a I have a mammogram I have to follow up with US. I ask to have only US and insurance won’t pay unless I have mammo first. I’m ready to walk away from all of it.

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CocotteMinute's avatar

”insurance won’t pay unless…” is it the behaviour of people caring for your health, or … ???

Mammograms Are A Billions Dollar Business. They're Only Useful For Profit & Always Do Terrible Harm To The Patient.

→ See here : https://twitter.com/ValerieAnne1970/status/1885941295652192400

https: // twitter.com / ValerieAnne1970 / status / 1885941295652192400

(copy-paste the 2d link then remove the blank spaces if you are redirected at twitters main page instead of the post, I have that problem all the time… )

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Patricia's avatar

I had a mammogram for the first time in many years in February. I'm one of those with dense breasts that have become larger with age. They crushed the crap out of my breasts. The pain was excruciating. I had a lasting pain from it in one breast for a month and a half because she couldn't get the right angle or something and she kept doing it over. Just as in the past for me they said "oh we're not sure about one of the breasts. We need to get another image for comparison." Nothing was ever found in the past (follow up was an ultrasound). Same for my sister. There is no breast cancer in my family, and I just don't want to go through that hell again. After reading these comments I may just cancel the followup (late May) or demand another option. I've never understood why we as women allow ourselves to be subjected to this torturous procedure. A less invasive, less painful procedure should be covered by insurance and available to us.

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JoJo's avatar

It’s awful, right? Same thing, I have no family history of it either. Already decided to skip this May’s follow up torture.

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Immaculata's avatar

Same

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Gypsy Queen's avatar

Pleasure!!!

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Susan Malone's avatar

You are my person. Always question.

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The Cazuzo's avatar

Exact that’s a big problem!

People put assertives affirmations and they are wrong….f

If not 100% sure, put a conditional at least. Could it be? Or put the law in exergue , clear & unequivocable

Stop feeding the Illusion machine, it’s important…

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

The same applies to biopsies: if it's not cancer, there is no need for them, and if it is, they can spread it. Also, they can burst cysts, just like mammograms, as the article explains...

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Another important factor is false negatives, which can also happen, when a cyst is burst open. That's how my sister may have gotten killed at 32 in Canada. To be neglected, statistic figures are also often culpable; because of her age, she had a chance of one in ten thousand to have cancer; I don't know if she had it or it was the procedure that started it, but humans are not figures... Statistically, however, those who wear a bra 24/7 are allegedly three times more likely to develop breast cancer. Antiperspirants and deodorants are also highly discouraged, just like shaving the armpit...

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Thanks for your sharing, Ray - and for the warnings !

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

You are more than welcome to use the info from me to compile a whole new article; I never steal ideas.

If you prefer, I can do it for both of us, but sooo many women fall victim to the pseudo-medical paradigm that it's revolting (been working with the butchers called doctors for several years in my life...).

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Again thank you so much for your offer, I must (sadly) confess I have very limited time to write by myself; I contribue the best I can translating from French those articles I believe could be interesting or helpful (such as yours 😉).

Yes a lot of people fall victim, I’ve been myself for a minor part (unnecessary biopsy). Surprisingly, the doctor who made this biopsy was nearly upset to have to do it, saying that the guys in charge of interpreting the mammographies were always crying wolf for any little shadow, but that was ”juicy business”.

If only there were more doctors like this one !

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

And the Lidocaine they are using for biopsies is toxic...

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Michelle Dupar, RN's avatar

As a nurse of many years and much experience under the medical model, I was suspicious of the safety of mammograms (I nicknamed them smashmograms). I learned after working in an ER that radiation is cumulative. (We always asked the pt if they have had any CT scans in the prior year-we did not want to over radiate them.) I reasoned that if radiation is cumulative, then why are we radiating sensitive breast tissue annually? This changed my personal view and behavior with regards to mammograms.

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John P. Wallis's avatar

#2 is obvious to anyone with 2 braincells. Let's smash a book flat and hope nothing inside pops. Whomever invented the device clearly hates women and for that matter Breast's. Ban those fucked up devices globally.

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Stuart Hutt's avatar

Yup, and if women had sufficient iodine they would have fewer cysts and cancer. Iodine is required since it acts to open the door in glands which secrete. If the door doesn’t open you develop fibrocystic breasts.

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Thanks for this valuable advice, Stuart !

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enigmatic proprietary's avatar

The Xray can split cells, causing chain reactions thus cancer. A dentist I used would not use safe protocol when doing patient xrays snd he died of a fadt form of cancer. After that I fresked and got very few xrays.. never got a mammogram. Some spectulate that it creates breast cancer.

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S.Fee's avatar

I always knew this. Then read some articles like this one confirming my thoughts! A friend went to her GYN they found “ something” -she began getting chemo- chemical poison . All her beautiful hair fell out. At the end of the treatment they said she was in remission. Lie from the beginning - lie at the end. Suddenly while home, feeling finally out of danger she fell suddenly very sick and was rushed to the hospital. She died almost immediately of sepsis! That deadly infection from the chemo needles! They took no responsibility- of course! If only she hadn’t been going to those yearly examines- I know she would be alive today! She is greatly missed!

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CocotteMinute's avatar

So sorry for your friend… thanks for sharing this. Friendly yours.

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John P. Wallis's avatar

In the world of doctors, there are far more Quacks than Ducks.

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Renee Marie's avatar

I’m so sorry, truly🕊️💜.

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S.Fee's avatar

💜

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linda driscoll's avatar

I've never had a mammogram for the reasons stated. If I detect a lump, I'd do it, but radiation, which they always factor in on the invitation sheet with the nhs, doesn't entice me. I've worked in breast clinics, know the biopsy procedures, extracting fluid etc, these are necessary, but mammograms, particularly when done frequently, & in some cases, there are women with lumpy breast tissue, that has to be investigated, as it could be cancerous, but the mammograms frequently performed can be health damaging. I'm no scaremonger, not having a mammogram is my personal choice, I always do a breast check & would have one, if a lump was found, but won't have one as a so called health check, that we have in the UK, dye to the warning that the nhs makes us aware of, radiation is not healthy to healthy tissue

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Thanks for sharing your experience !

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Hamilton Creek's avatar

QT imagining is the best imaging available and no radiation

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Dave's avatar

Dr. Jenn Simmons. Keeping Abreast with Dr. Jenn Show on Spotify/YouTube. The only source for QT Imaging.

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Hamilton Creek's avatar

Yes she is excellent. There are QT imaging clinics in California as well.

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Troy Tempest's avatar

I have a close friend that after finding a lump went to her specialist who said it's fine leave it. Nope, years ago given good advice from an actual doctor "if you find a lump cut the bastard out and you won't have a lump and you will have plenty of meat for a biopsy" so had it removed. It was the rust. Two operations later 20mm (3/4 of an inch) of rust was removed.

During this time with the growth at that size one asperastion and TWO mammograms came back negative.

After she was heavily pushed to be irradiated and Tomoxifined. No to both and yes to Thermography.

I am an industrial plumber, I work with extremely heavy and dangerous materials and in uniformly dangerous environments. When I look at how a mammogram is performed I think jeeeesus that looks more like an industrial accident than health care. But what would I know I'm only a thick plumber and my freind is now two years in and still rust free.

An anecdote of course but one persons path.

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CocotteMinute's avatar

Hi Troy,

First of all I’m happy your friend is OK now. Thanks for sharing, her path is far more than an anecdote, it means hope and courage to fight for many others.

Also, please don’t call yourself ”a thick plumber” ! Your profession is as valuable as any other (tbh : more than some…) and furthermore, you demonstrate a commitment and a sensible thinking that many so-called intellectuals lack.

I wish you the best to both of you !

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Follow the money pressed-out of the human cattle ...

Despicable !!!

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Miss Ruth's avatar

Mammograms cause cancer. They damage the tissue and radiate it at the same time.

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Trish Randall's avatar

The people who promote mass screenings of healthy women with mammograms ignore some important facts. Before we got such advanced screening, DCIS was usually an incidental finding at autopsy, since it tends to not spread. Breast cancer is not symptomless - there are changes to skin, heat, swelling, pain - in other words, signs & symptoms, like other illnesses. Most American women who get called back for further screening fear they have cancer, although only 5% of women who get further screenings turn out to have cancer (and that’s even when including DCIS, and the equally indolent LCIS among “cancer” results). Women who have DCIS that is not treated have a 10 year survival rate of 99%.

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Lola's avatar

Wow - I stopped having mammograms over a decade ago. I was told to get them every year. I have large breasts so the mammograms were always very painful. I decided I was tired of the fear, pain and lack of common sense associated with this practice. Crushing the breast and then subjecting it to radiation seems like it could potentially cause quite a bit of damage. I have no history of breast cancer in my family, so it seems like I made a very prudent decision.

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Beverly Dow's avatar

Wonderful article! Full of truth! Ban should be in USA, too!

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Beverly Dow's avatar

❤️😊

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Linda's avatar

I've had one mammogram. I decided never to do it again. It's painful and I believe exposing my girls to radiation is more likely to cause cancer than to stop it. When they told me they'd like to get a better look because of something they saw they had me go in for a sonogram. So I have to ask, why not just do a sonogram to start with and skip exposing women to radiation on an annual basis ? Mammograms are designed to create cancer patients.

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